5 responses to “The case for a men’s officer?”

  1. Dunja Nedic

    I had a cheeky peek at this while it was still saved as a draft and couldn’t wait for it to be published so I could comment on it.

    This is a wonderful article and highlights a lot that gets overlooked by those who believe we have attained equality (which is a concept I don’t really believe in anyway, as it’s ignoring the fact that men and women [even before you take into account individual differences] have different needs that should be embraced and celebrated). Moreover, I found that it was only after I’d finished high school that much of this became apparent to me – my dad was the stay at home parent and my mum’s a university lecturer in electrical engineering, and apart from my dad suggesting that participating in rowing would give me manly shoulders, I was never discouraged or made to feel that there was anything I couldn’t do because I was a girl. It’s only been in the last few years that many of these underlying issues regarding sex and gender that are so built into our culture have become apparent to me.

    Regarding your question about a men’s officer, I think it’s probably a futile position to hold in a university at this stage, particularly as you highlight the point that the person undertaking the role has primarily been concerning themselves with health issues. We already know that men see doctors less than women do. This is probably, in part, because women’s health issues have garnered more public attention and awareness in the last few years and thus there would likely need to be a similar kind of campaign toward men’s health issues before a ‘men’s (health) officer’ might be needed at a university.

    Thanks for writing this article, you’ve done such a great job with it in bringing attention to so many issues whilst ensuring that it isn’t going to alienate men or women who read it. It’d be interesting to get a man’s perspective on the need for a men’s officer (although then they’d probably be pushed into that role of speaking for all men), but I think at this stage it’s more a question of whether males would really take advantage of having such a person around, rather than whether they’re entirely necessary.

  2. Erin Stewart

    Thanks for your comment! I agree, it would be great to get a man’s perspective on the issue :)

  3. Andrew

    Of course the ratio of men to women at Postgrad level is much higher in the UK –

    1. Masses and masses of postgrad students are from abroad nowadays, many from countries where men still have a better chance in education than womeen.

    2. The British educattion system is tipped heavily towards the Sciences rather than the Arts at postgrad level. As you’ve said yourself, that makes it skewed in itself. If you counted a PGCE as postgrad studies the numbers would look very different.

    Regarding sports and participation on campus I think you are a little misguided, certaintly w/r to the two Universities I attended. Whilst the ‘mens sports’ did gather a larger crowd based on the single sport of Rugby Union (open almost exclusively to ex public schoolboys and noone else) the second most popular was probably womens basketball. Funnily enough this was also the one womens ‘team’ sport that did not attract complaints from straight women – the football, rugby and hockey teams where all criticised by straight women for being run by and for lesbians, to the point where a girl with an England U21 cap was ‘overlooked’ for our football team.

    In fact, if you were to count ‘solo fitness sports’ such as jogging, I think you would find more women of Uni age participating.

  4. Erin Stewart

    Thanks for your comment Andrew. Regarding your first point, I’m not sure how significant the presence of international students really is, but I think that universities can definitely play a role here in assisting women from the cultures you are referring to (I’m not really sure which ones in particular you are talking about) in making a positive adjustment to university life in a new country and acting as a role model for other women around the world to do the same. This may be beyond the scope of the ordinary role of the women’s officer, but certainly it highlights the degree to which universities could increase their accommodations in making the pursuit of academia a positive one for women on an international level.

    Although postgraduate work is geared towards the sciences, certain sciences, such as biology and psychology, are not male-dominated at an undergraduate level. In addition, your second point does not explain why, for instance, at an undergrad level women make up around 50% of philosophy students, but only about 25% of postgraduate students. Granted, philosophy is worse than most disciplines in the social sciences at retaining women, but this is still something to think about. I think that universities would do well to really analyse why it is that women can become alienated from further study at a higher rate than men and perhaps remedy those aspects of its culture which may cause these inequities.

    Finally, regarding sport, although your anecdote may express ambivalence about gender inclusion, my experiences suggest otherwise. Celebrations surrounding sport do tend to be misogynistic and the drunken actions of those in sport perennially threatens and undermines women. I do not think that this is necessarily representative of all men who play sport nor of all team sports, far from it, but it does render the culture of particular team sports alienating for women. In relation to this, personal fitness activities, such as jogging, are not team sports and are not ways to allow women to socially engage with others at university. Perhaps though, instituting ways in which women could partake in these activities together would reduce fitness-related isolation.

  5. Erin Stewart

    Also, regarding graduate courses such as teaching, while they probably would give a more rounded view of how many women are enrolled at university beyond a graduate level, they are not telling about retention as often the goal at the end is a professional career. They do not reflect on the ability of the university to be a place in which women thrive over the long-term (including in potential careers in academia).

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